There are three types of holdings: Baronies: Focus on troops. hi guys i recently bought ck2 and i dont see what are those holdings for there is a holding next to my face, i assume that's the holding (a castle for rennes) of my province. 700+. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Business, Economics, and Finance. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". . View entire discussion ( 17 comments) More posts from the CrusaderKings community Continue browsing in rCrusaderKings rCrusaderKings Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy RPG video game series for PC, Mac Linux developed published by Paradox Interactive. . 21 total. The capital of a province could change from a castle to a city in the same province if you have both in your demesne. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. I have looked at the titles for that county (Perfeddwlad - Wales) and I have nothing for the Major of Dendigh which the title was originally. Fort level. These holdings provide both income and taxes, and every holding is held by a character. I am a new player of CK2 (current patch) playing as the feudal King of Sweden on the standard start date. 4. They are not the right type of holding. Just make sure you keep a fair sum for emergency mercs. Each ruler (except nomads) has a demesne limit, and exceeding it causes a penalty to taxes and levies. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. And how I can change this. If the county level title is held by a baron, which is most commonly the case, that baron becomes a count. . 1) Wrong type of holding in Demesne, did not changed when i gave it away to my second born son. I revoked it for myself and became a count worchester as I believe I am supposed to be. They are not the right type of holding. . This limit is what forces rulers to distribute power to vassals rather than directly controlling their entire realm. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. What does it mean, and how do I fix it?For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). In general when you get the "Wrong Type of Holding" notification you should try and give it to the correct type of ruler. 2. 700+. That means you are starting out with two titles, Petty King of Connachta, And Count of Connachta. Thank you. Available now on Paradox Mods, on Steam workshop (on hold for long)I don't understand this. types - castles, cities, temples or tribes. I don't understand this. I have all of Ireland right now (I'm also King of Eire), and I took over Gwynedd from the Petty Kingdom of Gwynedd, but now I have the wrong holding type in my demesne for some reason. i have a 7 holding capital. . 700+. Hello, I would like to know more about this game since i find it difficult than other strategies, some things i have learned in hard way and some i still can not. They are not the right type of holding. I was playing as Matilda. The biggest penalty, though, is that you're basically spending demesne points for worthless holdings. 7: Barcelona. A castle holding uses one of your holdings the same way a county capital does. If you wish to keep control of the county yourself, or give it to a noble rather then a bishop (which is often something I'd recommend, as ruling over a vassal who holds a county that is either a theocracy or a republic will cost you a -30 opinion hit due to you not being the same government type), all you need to do is gain control of a castle in that county, and it will. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. There will also be the option to tweak auto-save to perform at different intervals. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". I have this and I dont know how to fix it. Any help would be appreciated. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. A large part of your income, especially in a small realm, comes from the personal holdings of your demesne . If you give it to a vasall you will get at least 45/50% or more percent of the base income. Thank you. For the counties I usually go to the intrigue tab to recruit a noble/soldier/holy men. . To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. makes sense. Showing 1 - 14 of 14 comments. Feb 10, So I was playing the demo earlierand an alert button popped up saying. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos Workshop News Guides Reviews. . Not sure what to do with it. Advantages of counties: Tech spreads across demesne More monthly prestigeFor example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). Either to an unlanded courtier, previously landed vassal or a newly created one through the given holding's menu. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Essentially, it is the tax that your vassals will be paying you. For the counties I usually go to the intrigue tab to recruit a noble/soldier/holy men. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. Any help would be appreciated. This will only work for the subholdings, so for the main holding you're going to have to either give it away to someone else or create a tribal holding in one. Either to an unlanded courtier, previously landed vassal or a newly created one through the given holding's menu. Fast forward a generation and the Pope went off on a crusade on the other end of the map. two) will turn into a mere 75-gold wall. CK2 noob here. . . 3/1/2023 0 Comments The Earth Hillfort in this holding is already Level I so will “only” take three more upgrades to become a Stone Hillfort, which is what you need to go feudal. . Most characters cannot hold a city within their direct demesne without suffering. Holy stays at just 25. But I can't give it away. Generally speaking, castles are best. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. So you can have an entire province or a castle within it. What exactly does this mean? If there's no castle, then you'd need to build one then give the barony away, if the castle holder is your vassal, you can try to revoke the castle title, make it the primary holding, then give the barony away. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. makes sense. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. I revoked a the title of mayor of a main city of a holding from a vassal. Counts and Barons earn income from their demesne, they pay a percentage to their Duke, who pays a percentage of their total income to their King, who pays a percentage of their total income to their Emperor. The primary source of wealth for most rulers. Hindu characters will suffer opinion penalties if they have holdings. . I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. And how I can change this. . Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. top of page. Is there any was to change the county capital to a barony? Does it hurt me to hold a county that is the wrong type of holding?I per-ordered and have been playing the CK2 demo and I've run into a few issues I can't quite figure out. I guess it's because the capital is temple and I should put some bishop to rule there, right?I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. Now when I take a friend of mine from my court and attempt to grant him the county, he does not become a mayor. . I don't know how to give up my one holding in a conquered county so I can go. They are not the right type of holding. will have the -20 wrong government type opinion. . 19 coastal. de·mesne (dĭ-mān′, -mēn′) n. Ok so I'm completely new to CK2, never played the original. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. Hi all, I'm playing tribal in Ireland and I have just clicked the adopt feudalism button. Crusader Kings 2 Taxes, Levy and Laws Taxes There are 3 types of holdings in CK2: Castles are owned by feudal lords Churches are owned by bishops Cities are owned by mayors You are a feudal lord so having a city or a church in your demesne is considered having a wrong type of holding and you get 25% penalty to the holding's. I was playing as Matilda. . . But I can't give it away. The first is all cities all the time, and fill out your demesne with counties for extra baron taxation income. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. makes sense. It's true, in the county I just took, the castle is held by a baron, while the city is held by me. Cities: Focus on tax. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. . Fast forward a generation and the. Fast forward a generation and the. Either give them away to a mayor or bishop or create a new such vassal by right-clicking that settlement and choose the "Create new vassal" option from the menu that pops up. 8. The formula for each vassal is: Liege Taxes = Vassal Income x Tax Percentage x Penalty Modifiers. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. i make some war to slavs heretic on north, now i have in my demesne this new holdings. 1) When a vassal rebels and you win and throw him in the dungeon noticed. . A character is affected by your levy and taxation laws based on their type. Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne Star Wars Clone Medic Cara Mengembalikan Face Time Yang Tersembunyi Cabin Fever The Long Dark How To Make Money In Arma 3 Life. Hi My question is, what are the consequences (cons and maybe there are some pros) of having a a wrong holding type or a big demense? From what I know: Cons of having a big demense: - Problems with taxes? Cons of having a wrong holding type: -. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. I had a county that was owned by a vassal and I got it off them but after that I got a warning that there was a 'wrong holding type' and I noticed that the city of the county was the capital not the castle. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Tax Percentage is set by liege law. 0) If you are using the 'Way of Life' DLC you must either have Business Focus, or instead be of Vaishya caste. 700+. < >. Also, it can be a good idea to not grant too. What is the actual penalty for holding these?I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". A ruler's demesne limit is based on tier, personal and spouse stewardship, succession type, and centralization law. You aren't supposed to directly hold cities or temples as a feudal lord. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. . Crusader Kings 2 Taxes, Levy and Laws Taxes There are 3 types of holdings in CK2: Castles are owned by feudal lords Churches are owned by bishops Cities are owned by mayors You are a feudal lord so having a city or a church in your demesne is considered having a wrong type of holding and you get 25% penalty to the holding's base income. But I can't give it away. makes sense. 700+ gold to build it, I'll make that up. I'm wondering what the best way to divide these domains would be; is the following (about) correct?: * Cities: Hand these out to (non-Bishop) vassals that are. Not sure of exact percentages but you get a lot less levy and gold from them. Being a republic unlocks the convert to city decision for you, which creates a holding of each type in the chosen province (if a temple already exists it will not be created). So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. Last edited by Nea's Nose ; Mar 17, 2021 @ 8:18pm. 700+. Every county has at least one holding, and most have three. . . Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne Ck2. New player here; my son and I just bought CK2 a few days ago. If you have the wrong holding type you take about 25% of the base income as income. , I imprison/banish a mayor (as a king with one county), and take possession of his title. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. If I select a vassal and grant landed title, I only get a. Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Development Studio. . The three holdings in question were 2 cities and a bishopric that I had recently conqured. . Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". Also, as you are just starting out odds are you are a Petty King, which is the same as a Duke, rather then an actual King. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. 21 total. 21 coastal. I don't understand this. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Each ruler (except nomads) has a demesne limit, and exceeding it causes a penalty to taxes and levies. My income in that province increased greatly. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. . Fast forward a generation and the. . I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. I have looked at the titles for that county (Perfeddwlad - Wales) and I have nothing for the Major of Dendigh which the title was originally. I now get the warning/message "Wrong type of holding in Demesne"; what does that do? It doesn't say what penalties there are. Crusader Kings III. I guess it's because the capital is temple and I should put some bishop to rule there, right?I don't understand this. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Forum list Trending. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. 1 coastal holdings/county. Because whenever I assign a landed title I see. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. I don't understand this. This however triggered two consequences I do not understand. A ruler's demesne limit is based on tier, personal and spouse stewardship, succession type, and centralization law. Just now, I finished constructing a new city in the county where my ruler resides. "Wrong type of holding in Demesne" | Paradox Interactive Forums "Wrong type of holding in Demesne" aliebling Feb 15, 2012 Jump to latest Follow Reply What. Thank you. indefinitely. This limit is what forces rulers to distribute power to vassals rather than directly controlling their entire realm. . I guess it's because the capital is temple and I should put some bishop to rule there, right?Facts and opinions are not the same thing. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. As the map receives further updates, the number of holdings may increase. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. If I select a vassal. Every county has at least one holding, and most have three. For example, whenever you propose peace to. Thank you. ago. Early game they're cheap but get pricey quick. If dynasty is in a weak position stockpile as much gold as possible for mercenaries and bribes. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. I don't understand this. . If you have a different system of government your vassal will not like you. How to deal with this issue? 2) Title loss on Succession ( 2 duchies and 1 city which was already granted. Crusader Kings II. They pay the most taxes, and once upgraded give numerous levies, but have a lower fort level than castles and their levies consist more of the lighter soldier types than both castles and temples. And how I can change this. Bishoprics: A middle ground between baronies and cities. My Crusader Kings II guides: The definitive bloodline. I hold Leicester as Earl. 9/11/2019 This article may contain outdated information that is inaccurate for the current of the game. Not sure what to do with it. A large part of your income, especially in a small realm, comes from the personal holdings of your demesne . GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Provinces will have different Stability levels and the player will have a new concern in managing the stability of his/her demesne. It is not worth it. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. how do I change it so the county is controlled by the castle? (i know how to change the owners of the wrong demense type, but in current format I can only gove the. Paradox Store. . Thank you. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. . Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. If I select a vassal. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Tribalism is an early form of government, and one of three playable non-feudal government types in CK2 (the other two being merchant republics and nomadism . Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Wrong Type of Holding in Demesne (Oct 05, 2021) popped up saying that a few of my provinces were the wrong type of holding in my demesne. These holdings provide both income and taxes, and every holding is held by a character. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. The easiest way to do this is to click on a county that has the wrong types of holdings, right-click on the at holdings at the bottom of the county screen and select 'Create new vassal'. Fast forward a generation and the. Ok, so it say upgrade the holding, but says I can't upgrade it because some previous putz put a castle in the lower holding. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. #4. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Nomadism is also one of three playable non-feudal government types in CK2, the other two being merchant republics and tribalism. I gave. 700+. 4 coastal holdings/county. Wrong type of holding in demesne. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Showing 1 - 14 of 14 comments. Later you can use the character search to land people in your realm, usually nice same culture/religion people on the council of your vassals. . . . When you first convert to feudalism, all demesne tribes are immediately converted to castles, even in provinces of the wrong. 5. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Generally speaking, castles are best. On macOS (US), ⌥Option + 6 enters. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. Sounds like you're tribal and the holding is feudal. 5 - 114 years. What is the actual penalty for holding these?Crusader Kings 2 Wrong Holder Type; Also found in: Thesaurus, Legal, Encyclopedia, Wikipedia. All but 1 are coastal. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Did all the tutorials and read some of the manual but not all. ) Tribal rulers can only hold tribes without penalty, but can easily build new tribes in conquered territory; they can also build temples. So playing as earl of dublin and I have 4 titles at the moment. Nomadism is also one of three playable non-feudal government types in CK2, the other two being merchant republics and tribalism. makes sense. Thank you. I have looked at the titles for that county (Perfeddwlad - Wales) and I have nothing for the Major of Dendigh which the title was originally. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. I have this and I dont know how to fix it. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. . Jun 18, 2015 at 5:20. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. The best ways to do this is to either simply revoke the baron's title (which WILL give you an opinion hit from all your other vassals, but is often still the simpler of. . To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Sometimes a city is so rich that it is worth keeping despite the penalty, but most of the time you will want to give away these wrong. Vassaless runs are worse than runs with vassals because you cannot hold all holdings without the demesne size penalty and you get gold*0,1 from that holding. Tribalism is an early form of government, and one of three playable non-feudal government types in CK2 (the other two being merchant republics and nomadism . If Hindu, be sure to match the character's caste with the holding type. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. My income in that province increased greatly. I saw that I was 9/7 in terms of demese (sp?) so I tried to give some of the provinces away to lower that back to the limit. 700+. Thank you. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. This means you cannot have cities or temples in your demesne without getting the wrong holding type penalty. Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne; Some of them are pretty easy to spot. I have always looked at counties in CK2 with lots of empty slots as "nice", but I rather have a 4-holding county where all the holdings have been created and some of its buildings have been upgraded to a 7-holding county full of empty slots. What exactly does this mean?Wrong settlement type [edit | edit source] Characters get a 75% penalty to income and levies in demesne settlements that do not match their government type. I have this and I dont know how to fix it. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. Why is it bad to govern cities directly? I am guessing it is bad since I got the message warning me. What you can do there is either build a new castle or find a way to inherit/revoke a vassal Baron's castle in the county, then make it the capital holding. What is the actual penalty for holding these?They must personally hold a City in that province (a vassal holding it doesn't count). Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. . Instead, he becomes a count (suffering from a wrong demesne holding type penalty). It isn't listed as one of my demesnes that I can assign to someone else. And how I can change this. So I was playing the demo earlier and an 'alert button' popped up saying that a few of my provinces were the wrong type of holding in my demesne. The first warning you mention about wrong holding type in demense occurs when the player holds a title incompatible with either the game itself (you can't only be a baron, bishop, or burgher as the player and receive penalty for directly holding them) or incompatible with their government type such as a tribal having feudal holdings and vice. This form of taxation is called a 'liege tax' in Crusader Kings 2. And how I can change this. 19 coastal. #14. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. makes sense. A demesne is a character's collection of personal. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. I'm playing a petty king in northern wales and captured the Isle of Mann. g. Barons are affected by feudal ta, mayors are. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. Fast forward a generation and the. They are not the right type of holding. Also, if you are not at your demesne limit you can hold onto wrong holdings. They are not the right type of holding. Fast forward a generation and the. makes sense. I don't know why it's there. The three holdings in question were 2 cities and a bishopric that I had. I revoked it for myself and became a count worchester as I believe I am supposed to be. . but this holdings are…For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding").